New Seacocks

 

One of the few things I don’t like about these boats is the lack of real seacocks.  Scanmar installed flangeless valves which were simply screwed into through hulls.  This isn’t a very strong installation, and it is not unheard of to snap off the thin through-hull nipple when applying force to close a stubborn old valve.  I don’t know of this happening on a Scanmar, but it could.  This shortcoming is not unique to Scanmar, and in fact many if not most older boats have this problem.  A true seacock has a flange cast into the base which allows you to throughbolt the valve onto the hull; the flange takes the strain when applying pressure to the valve to close it, not the thin-walled through-hull. 

 

You can see the difference between the old and new valves below.

 

 

Original 1-1/2” sea valve

 

New Conbraco seacocks

I decided on ball valves rather than the traditional plug-type seacocks shown below.  I chose to use Conbraco “Apollo” bronze valves for several reasons: they have chrome-plated bronze balls and Teflon seats, which help prevent sticking, corrosion, and marine growth; the triangular bases take up less space than square ones; they have stainless steel handles; they have a great reputation in industry; they are rebuildable; and they are reasonably priced.   Groco also makes ball valves, but some of these (the FBV series) have chrome-plated brass balls, the worst possible combination in a saltwater environment. Brass should be avoided for applications below the waterline, as it is too prone to galvanic corrosion.  Also, the lower-priced Groco valves such as the FBV series cannot be rebuilt. Groco does make an all-bronze, rebuildable seacock, but it is nearly twice the cost of an Apollo. I think the reason the Conbraco valves are priced better is because Conbraco sells mostly to a very broad industrial customer base, while Groco has the niche marine market. That’s my theory anyway.  I bought the seacocks and fittings at Defender, whose prices are hard to beat.

 

 

 

 

 

The Spartan traditional, plug-type seacocks seen here are built like tanks and will probably last forever; I had Spartan seacocks on my old Cape Dory and thought they were great.  They are more heavily built than either the Groco or Conbraco, but they do need to be dismantled and greased every year or else they would begin to stick. 

 

 

 

To avoid potential galvanic corrosion which could occur between stainless steel bolts and the bronze valve, I decided to use only bronze hardware, shown here. Appropriately sized bronze bolts, nuts and washers are available from Jamestown Distributors.

 

 

 

Another concern of mine about the original Scanmar 35 sea valves was the cockpit drain valve. Unlike most boats, the Scanmar 35 has one big centrally-located cockpit drain, necessary because below most of the cockpit is the huge aft cabin. The designer didn’t want to have piping or hoses running through the cabin, and instead there is a big 2” drain passing through the engine room and out the bottom of the hull.  As this valve must remain open at all times, it is essential that this valve be easily closed in case of an emergency.  Unfortunately, my Scanmar had a gate valve, the worst possible kind, at this key location. A ball valve needs only a ¼ turn to close, and a great deal of pressure and leverage can be applied to it. With a gate valve, you will need to rotate the valve several turns to close it, and if it gets stuck it will be very difficult to close.   My own valve was always difficult to close, and was finally impossible to close.  It had to go!  I replaced it with a bronze 2” Conbraco seacock.

 

 

 

 

Groco sells what they term “full-flow” components as well as “standard” ones; Conbraco also markets standard and full-flow valves.  The difference is that the inside diameter (I.D.) of full-flow valves and components remains constant at the rated I.D.  Thus a 1” I.D. seacock presents a 1” I.D. to the liquid at all points, and a 1” elbow (90°) tailpiece has a 1” inside diameter all throughout the fitting. This is especially noticeable in a 90° full-flow tailpiece: you can see that the full-flow model has a gentler curve, whereas the standard one has a right angle bend.  I decided to use Groco full-flow fittings on the Conbraco full-flow valves.  I figured it would be best not to restrict the passage of water if possible.

 

 

 

 

I decided to farm most of this work out to the marina. The boat mechanic I hired had several other advantages over me for this work: he is a shade over 5’ tall and weighs about 100 lbs, two traits we don’t share.  His diminutive size would come in handy, since several of the seacocks and related hoses were nearly impossible to reach, notably the three in the head.  Worst of all was the hose run to the waste (holding) tank, which is in the engine room but lies up against the starboard hull (the tank in the background in this photo). One has to crawl into this space and then lie atop the fuel tank and whatever is in there to reach the tank. 

 

 

On some Scanmar 35s the Y-valve, which switches the head’s output from holding tank to direct overboard discharge, is also against the starboard side of the hull. I planned to mount my Y-valve in the cabinet under the sink in the head instead. 

 

This is what Scanmar installed in my boat instead of a Y-valve: a series of 3 ball valves; this takes up a lot of space and is a pain to use. A Whale Y-valve will be installed in this area under the sink in place of this jumble.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I told the mechanic to change out all the old hoses with new while he was at it.  As you can see from these photos, some of the hoses were ready to go.  One hose had a rusty wire reinforcement, which means water was leaking into the wire core.

 

 

Another hose was torn in the space between the two hose clamps and could have given way at any time. This is the main reason you must shut all seacocks (except the cockpit drain) when leaving the boat unattended!  Notice also how the hose here was cut by the clamp’s sharp edges, and weakened by being squeezed by the clamp’s perforations. 

 

 

I bought several boxes of AWAB Swedish-made hose clamps; although expensive if bought singly, a boxful brings the price way down.  Besides, a hoseclamp, even if they cost $6 each, is very cheap insurance when compared to sinking your boat!  The AWAB clamps are made of 316 Stainless chrome nickel steel throughout, including the screw, and have a non-perforated band with rolled up/rounded edges which is gentle on the hose and reduces the risk of leakage.  These were also ordered from Jamestown Distributors. West Marine also carries them if buying singly.

 

 

 

 

After taking on the job, the mechanic called me and said that he could not replace the suction line (the “Waste” fitting on deck) because “there was no room”.  When I drove down to the boat and got a look at it, I discovered that the big, beautiful stainless steel holding tank bolted onto the engine room deck was a dummy- the waste fitting on deck opened into the engine room- no hose at all!  There was no connection between the waste deck fitting and the tank; that meant that any waste in the tank was there to stay!

 

The mechanic said it was impossible to fit a hose between the waste fitting and tank now, because there was only 4” between the underside of the deck and the top of the tank.  So we bit the bullet and cut out the old (virgin!) tank and replaced it with a polyethylene tank mounted amidships in the engine room.   I’ll add a picture of the finished installation here as soon as I get one.

 

 

 

 

 

I specified that the flanges should be through-bolted into the hull and epoxy-coated plywood backing blocks be used under each seacock. The mechanic fought me on the backing blocks and through bolting and felt it was overkill, but I felt that the blocks would help match the concave hull to the flat flange, and through-bolting would add strength.  His method of installation was to simply screw the “mushroom” (through-hull) into the seacock and call it finished.  In the end, we used backing blocks and through-bolted each with three silicon bronze bolts which were countersunk into the hull. Here’s how we installed each seacock:

 

 

 

 

And here is the result: this is the new seacock installation under the galley sink. The small (3/4”) seacock is for the saltwater faucet, while the 1-1/4” valve is for the sink drain.

 

The white object in the lower left is the Whale galley foot pump.  The new, larger refrigerator box will fill this space up to the seacocks. The old hoses shown were replaced.  Originally, the water pump and accumulator tank were also stuffed into this space, but I moved both of these to the head.